
Bill Clementson and Ingvar Mattsson discussed keyboards and Emacs in their blogs
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I always recommend the
CVT Avant Stellar
keyboard. The tactile feel of this keyboard is pure bliss and it is built like a tank! All keys are reprogrammable.
Accessories shipped with this keyboard:
- Key Puller: Remove key caps with ease.
- Extra Key Caps: Extra Control and Alt key caps that are sloped to fit different rows. Replace the Caps Lock key cap with a Ctrl key cap. Now the "Ctrl key is where god intended it to be, on the left hand side of A", as Jerry Pournelle wrote some years ago.
Of course the
Symbolics keyboard is in a different league, but you need to build yourself an
adapter
to use it with a PC.
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- posted by
vsync
- 2004/10/27 16:24:05
I'm in awe, although $189 provokes a bit of sticker shock.
How does its mechanical action compare to the IBM Model M?
Do the extra function keys send properly unique keycodes, so that I can map them in X11, or do I have to program the keyboard with macros and such? How are those keys labeled? F13-F24 or "Home", "Front", etc?
Do they have an unoffensive keycap that I can replace the Windows one with?
Heavy Duty Keyboard - posted by
Markus Fix
- 2004/10/27 18:24:25
Yes, it's expensive.It's a bit cheaper ($149,-) if you order from http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/en-us/hardware/keyboards/ The Avant Stellar has a feel similar to the IBM Model M. All 24 function keys send proper key codes. Every key is programmable (even without the Windows software), so the function of a key need not depend on OS support. The labeling of the function keys on the left hand side is F11, F12, F1,..,F10. The labeling of the function keys on the top is SF1, .., SF12. It does not come with a replacement key cap for the Windows key.
- posted by
Lorand Bruhacs
- 2004/10/28 11:56:29
The Avant Stellar's name truly precedes its stellar reputation (if you forgive the translingual pun). I bet your daughter likes it too ;)
Seems I have found a solution for the lockup bug I sometimes
get when I wake my Powerbook from sleep: John Gruber
writes about it in his
Energy Saver Prefs Panel Won't Load article.
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Manuel Odendahl
created
a circuit diagram of the Logitech mouse. Looks like the Symbolics console is doing all of the decoding. We need to decode the USB
signals of the optical mouse and create the proper signals to
emulate the original Logitech mouse for the console. We will
do callibration in software on the microcontroller.
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For Project - posted by
Nilesh
- 2004/7/17 11:41:20
I want to design my own mouse.
Here are some pictures of the Logitech mouse that came with the Symbolics XL1200. Apart from the connector it seems to be a standard Logitech model.
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- posted by
Nomen Nescio
- 2004/3/30 20:52:07
apart from the connector, that's a stock Logitech C7. damn, that brings back memories...
the serial port version of the C7 was the first ever graphical pointing device i owned and used, hooked up to an old 80286 AT clone. i wish i would have kept it - the mouse, that is; good riddance to the 286.
that old logitech was downright indestructible. i believe i wore out one or two other, newer, mice before finally selling the 286 system with mouse and all, still working just fine.
it was also the most comfortable, ergonomic mouse i've ever tried, in spite of its angular and clunky appearance; for some odd reason it just fit my hand absolutely perfectly. that's not just sentimentality speaking, either, i remember being amazed back when i still owned it that it could actually be *more* comfortable to use than an all-curves microsoft 2-button mouse. at the time i chalked it up to the C7 having three buttons to spread my fingers out better, but now i'm not sure how it worked. still wish i would've kept it...
- posted by
John
- 2004/5/3 04:09:02
i was going through some old computer crap at my parents house (they don't want me using their place as my personal storage unit anymore) and i found the original user manual for the c7!
I'm looking for a way to connect an optical mouse (USB or PS2)
to my Lisp Machine.
The only hint I could find googling around was a
document
by John Wambaugh that describes how to connect a Xerox mouse
to a Symbolics.
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- posted by
manuel
- 2004/3/28 01:28:58
Do you have a symbolics mouse? In case you do, could you somehow reverse-engineer the protocol it speaks, or take a picture of the internals? It would be a nice hack after the USB-adapter, as in this case the adapter would have to play the role of a USB host towards the mouse, and convert the rather high-level USB mouse data back to what i think is a simple logical tick for each x/y movement unit. Anyway, I think I can do it, and will have time to do so in april/june.
USB Mouse Adapter for Symbolics - posted by
Markus Fix
- 2004/3/29 09:19:23
Manuel, I'll contact you via email. Sounds like a cool project.

Manuel Odendahl announced his
schematics
of a USB adapter for the Symbolics keyboard on ORKUT. Cool.
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